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Eyerater Fort Myers, FL posts: 43
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posted on October 31, 2008 at 06:05PM Inappropriate? Quote Reply
If so, why? If not, why?
replies: 67 latest post: December 04, 2008 at 10:51AM by Eyerater
posted on December 01, 2008 at 09:34AM
 

Eyerator, you will be wanting the matching M1 carbine for travel. And maybe a reloader.

Not sure if you heard of the 8 year old boy who shot himself with a micro uzi in MA last month. It has really puzzled me how a rational father, a doctor, could make such a decision!  Then i was reminded of allowing my kids to ride bikes without helmets.... every day. 

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posted on December 01, 2008 at 07:55PM
 
MadGolfer:

You make a good point.

Would that father have left out a canof rat poison where his eight-year-old could have gotten into it.

One of the responsibilities of gun ownership, especially legal gun ownership, is to keep your piece secure from children.

Incidentally, I rode bicycles for decades without a helmet. I'm still here.

Although some would say it affected my brain. (QGTM)
posted on December 02, 2008 at 03:16PM
 
In response to Eyerater's post from December 01 2008 07:55PM

If you Google "Westfield Uzi", the story is tragic and the most reasonable justification after a month of thoughts is that parents let kids bicycle, skateboard, ski etc without adequate guidance and protection, this boy had both his father and a licensed instructor at his shoulder.

 As to your original question, the 30 caliber carbine round is very loud in a "six shooter", a relatively safe first-time firearm with a single action hammer and trigger. The semiautomatic  M1 rifle with the same ammo was a US issue for forty years and the two together provide a reliable, economical arsenal if you reload your brass. The same combination is available in various calibers from Ruger, but this is my favorite iron. Let us know yours.

posted on December 02, 2008 at 06:54PM
 
no i do not own a gun ,i have children inmy home and dont want guns in it.
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posted on December 02, 2008 at 09:00PM
 
In response to madgolfer's post from December 02 2008 03:16PM
I'm still thinking;. I just read about a couple of pieces that the writer tested. He was doing an article on his testing of the guns in ocncealed carry applications. Now the names escape me. But I have the reference somewhere.

One of them has an internal keyed lock in the handle. If I had young children around the house tha twould be important to me. Since I don't, I'm not sure. Although it wouldn't hurt, as they say.

I haven't googled the westfield uzi but I am interested in  your comment.. Did the kid really have both an instructor and his father "at his shoulder" when he shot? What were they doing? Looking at chicks?

Update: Okay. I just read about it. A terrible tragedy that reinforces the need to "closely" supervise a minor, and know his or her capabilities. Obviously, not withstanding the father's evaluation, this boy was not up to firing an Uzi. But then, Plaxico Burress put a bullet in his leg acidentally. Guns are not toys. They are weapons.
posted on December 03, 2008 at 10:17AM
 
A constitutionalist like yourself should question the legality of any concealed weapon. The weapons of the 1700's were not easy to hide. While I fully support the right to bear arms, anyone caught with a concealed weapon, even law enforcement should be arrested. If there's a weapon near me, i want to see it.
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posted on December 04, 2008 at 10:51AM
 
In response to madgolfer's post from December 03 2008 10:17AM
The US Constitution, which is rightly considered a document forbidding certain government action rather than one granting rights, only says - regarding arms - that the government shall not prohibit bearing arms - I am, of course, paraphrasing.

It says nothing pro or con about concealed weapons, per se.

Individual State and local governement jurisdictions may prohibit concealing a weapon or may provide for permits for carrying a concealed weapon. It is not, on its own, in my opinion, a Constitutional issue.

In my home state, one may be licensed with a permit to carry a concealed weapon, assuming one is of good character and does not have history of felonies or mental illness.

That would be the only way I would carry concealed. To do otherwise would be to invite a police bullet - probably deservedly if you can't qualify for a permit.
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