Here's an interesting news story.  

TV, book offers pour in for mother of octuplets

Associated Press

LOS ANGELES - The mother of the world's longest-living octuplets is being deluged with offers for book deals, TV shows and other business proposals, but has not decided what she might do other than care for her children, her newly hired spokeswoman said Monday.

Hundreds of requests have been made since Nadya Suleman gave birth to six boys and two girls a week ago, said Joann Killeen, president of Killeen Furtney Group, a public relations company. "She's the most sought after mom in the world right now,"

Cmohr I think that is a lot of what bugs me to - when they have the NERVE to complain about something after they've done nothing for such a long time.  I know some that sat on their butts day after day, night after night, barely even taking care of their kids - they would whine that they can't afford the movies, or that they need a vacation, or that something in their life isn't perfect.  Well get off your butt and get a job!  I know it's hard being a single mom, but I also know DOZENS and DOZENS who have done it on their own.  I had one CW who had 2 kids, worked her butt off full time and managed to pay her and their way and have some money left over for fun and going out, etc. 

I think welfare should be reserved for those who truly cannot make it on their own, or have a major hardship and even then there should be a lofty review process and even then it should be temporary.  It should come with stipulations like "we give you x dollars for day care and you must get a job within 1 month" stuff like that.  You know those surprise visits they do for to make sure people are really married ... that's the same thing they should do for those on welfare. Random checks to make sure they really need it!  And if they see that they purchased a brand new cell phone that is better than mine, or a plasma tv, then they should take it away.

I've had people try to make me feel guilty for having enough savings to go on vacation twice a year.  Little do they realize that our vacations are so cheap compared to a lot of my friends!  We spend a whole lot less than other people I know.  I've learned that I can't feel guilty though - we work hard (online and in real life) to EARN our vacation.  Next time this one girl says to me "must be nice to go on vacation", I already planned my response - "yes it is nice to work hard all year and earn money for a short break".

Sorry for all the ranting :)  I just think that if America wants to stimulate the economy and add jobs, they might want to start by taking care of the lazy!

Is this the same woman we are talking about?  If she starts showing up on TV and Book Deals I'm going to BARF.  You know the PR rep will spin it to make her seem like the nicest most wholesome person, and people will buy into it.... this is why a lot of American's need a slap in the face.

A story similar to not really trying to be self-sufficient, etc----------
An healthy young (22-23 yr old) divorced woman took an educational course. She was the mother of 3 children, who were living with the dad, as custodial parent.  Due to the natue of the work she was preparing for--a physical exam was a pre- requisite--and, indeed, no health problems existed.  She fully completed the short course and was qualified for work.  However, after being on the job sufficiently--and drawing a 2 week check, she quit rather quickly.   Although I had nothing to do with her being selected as a student, It was one of my tasks to track placement, adjustment, etc    Point-blank to my face, she said "some of my money was taken for child-support, I can make more money by sitting on my A--, than working!!"

Back to the mom of 14--our local paper reported that at some future time, she wanted to
present a "parenting class or some type of instruction to parents".   WOW

Sad!  And that's the thing, they KNOW they can get more being lazy, so why work?  Honestly what is the incentive to work?  My incentive is self-respect and pride but some people will give up their self-respect for free money.... hmmm, this is starting to remind me of the Virgin we were talking about in that other thread.

And Meowmom also, if she teaches a class... is she going to teach them how to scam the system and get money out of their kids?

LOL! Now, that'd be the part of the course I would show up for! jk ;oP If others can take a portion of our pay checks to be lazy, I wouldn't mind seeing if we can get what we (my hubby and I) paid into those taxes back to be lazy a while. Shoot, we all deserve a break!

 

Go for it ;)  Let me know if you learn anything!  I'm always curious how people know how sometimes it is the seemingly dumb people out there that know how to scam the system.  It shows they could earn the money on their own if they put their mind to it rather than trying to find the next trick.

I do have to change some of my opinions though.  Some of these people are NOT lazy.  They work very hard at trying to scam the system!  They have 8 kids to scam the system!  I mean, I sometimes hear people like this talking for hours about all the things they are going to try to file for or try to do just to get some free money and I think to myself - wouldn't it be easier just to get a job?

I guess it's not easier to find a job, since so many people would rather scam for free money. Hey, I once met a guy who was very wealthy, owned a BMW, who told me he'd park his car down the street, and spend his days on the side of the road in dirty old clothes with a card board sign saying, "Why lie? I need a beer." He'd make 100s of dollars a day doing this, then change back into nice clothes, hop in his beemer and drive home.

Must be nice, but I couldn't in good conscience do those things. Although, it makes me so mad that we work so damned hard for our income while others play the system to steal it from us! . . . And that included those who crack the welfare system, pretend to be bums and corporate bailout bonuses! Those big wigs need bailed out, as much as I need a swift kick in the ars!

Wow, that is amazing.  I can't believe someone who had the money would do that!

Well I just always gotta think, they will get their's in the end :) 

So, now, I just heard on the news that this woman has a tutor for her kids! Are WE PAYING for that TOO!?! Urg!

Our local paper reports that no big companies have stepped forward for offering
"freebies--diapers, etc"--apparently as disgusted as many of us are about this
method for attention.  That the publicist would "have a big job" trying to convince us
and others for the need for help.

That is good to hear.  Big Companies must do their research and not just start giving to anyone they hear a story about.

By the way, in most states the father of these children maybe responsible for all the children, there was no legal written document. So, sad for the father, RUN.  This women is unstable and why isn't legal aide involved to see if she is mentally fit and why is she getting any assistance from the state.  She should not be aloud to take the babies home unless social services says there is enough room and care, etc. NO ONE should give this unfit mother any donations.  Please give to families who really need help, that are not using their children for money.  thanks, Tasha from MN

I think fertility clinics have been hit a terrible blow by this girl's action.  Public opinion is without a doubt very negative now about this subject. 

This girl and her doctor are irresponsible.  These children face a future that is uncertain.  It is truly sad that any child suffers in this world.  These babies should be placed for adoption and this girl needs serious counselling.

Yes, I ask the same question everyone does.  How on earth did this girl afford fertility treatments in Beverly Hills no less? 

 

I'm sorry, but I resent the fact that she gets food stamps, disability for her kids, etc.  It is not my responsibility to subsidize her bizarre need to have over a dozen children. 

I also read today that the woman had plastic surgery in an attempt to look like Angelina Jolie.  SICK.

I saw this lady on television being interviewed by a t.v. journalist.  It did not make me more sympathetic to see that she really is a beautiful girl who seems to have worked very hard on her appearance.  As I listened to her talk, I couldn't help but feel that there is something a little "out of kilter" about her.  She is almost TOO sweet and glowing and "maternal".  She almost seems to be like a great big little girl who has just been given eight dolls. 

I'm glad that she has a lot of love to give but six kids should have still been enough -- if she wanted to spread the love to anybody else, she should have opened a day care center.

And yes, to be frankly catty about it, it looked to me like she had a collagen "lip job" too.  My own lips weren't that smooth when I was eight years old. 

 

She did have plastic surgery but is FAR from looking like Angelina.  How did she afford the surgery?  How did she afford fertility?  All this makes me wish we could all demand her kids be taken away and her be thrown in a hospital.

I refused to watch the dateline special she was on. I think her sweetness and maternalness is all an Act b/c she is trying to BE Angelina Jolie.  She is trying to talk like Angelina, look like Angelina and pop out the kids like Angelia.  The difference is - Angelina can afford it.

BayouBengal said…

I've heard of too many cases where someone is getting money or support and they have no justifiable "need" for it.  For instance, the department my husband works in is Office of Youth Corrections.  There is one lady that works in couseling there, a professional, making a professional salary (more than twice MY salary) who is a single mother with children.  She recently got a notice that her childcare support is being dropped.  She had a fit.  Now she is working a full time job and making good money.  Why should the government be giving her $200 a week PER child for childcare? 

At least this one situation was caught and stopped.  But how many more are out there like this?  Our tax money is being wasted in so many ways!

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I agreee the system needs to be re-worked for sure.. but keep in mind that child support and welfare are 2 different things.  Child support comes directly from the child's father (or mother in some cases) and not from the government.  this issue seems more about support than welfare.

As for this 14 kids case...  tax payers will be paying out more than a million dollars for these babes just in birth and hospital costs sincthey are on medicaid. 

The lady is a nut.  It's so sad that these kids will have to go without things in life, because their Mom is whacked out.  I can't imagine the amount of work (and money) involved with this many children.  She seems to think she can just rely on others.  That is so wrong.

They have discovered who the fertility doctor is -- Dr. Michael Kamrova -- and this guy seems to be a law among to himself and something of a "controversial figure".  You know how they've been saying that the odds were highly against all the embroyos "taking"?  Well, not the way this guy does it.  He's such a ball of fire that now because of him ANOTHER woman who is nearly 50 years old is sitting in a hospital as I write this, waiting for the birth of QUADRUPLETS.  Her difficult pregnancy and delivery is going to require two or three months hospital stay and -- you guessed it -- she doesn't have hospital insurance.

jasyjen said…
The lady is a nut.  It's so sad that these kids will have to go without things in life, because their Mom is whacked out.  I can't imagine the amount of work (and money) involved with this many children.  She seems to think she can just rely on others.  That is so wrong.

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Here's the thing though, she doesn't think that she's on Welfare.  I just said Huh??  Medicaid, food stamps and SSI are all considered welfare.  Yup... a nut job.

Yes I have read many stories about him.  Apparantly if people don't have insurance, he takes cash and doesn't report it.  I  can't find the story right now, but I believe it said his wife and him would do that together. 

Here's a story from someone else who used him:  http://www.momlogic.com/2009/02/i_used_octuplet_moms_ivf_docto.php

You have to wonder why this guy could have stayed in business with people saying this about him.  It is likely that people did not report him when he seemed bad, but instead just found another doctor.  Hopefully this story opens people's eyes to report bad behaviour and bad doctors!

The whole thing is sicko-icko to me.

Somebody needs to be slapped.
Or somebodies.

     Poor California.  Can't pass a budget.  Has no money.  Now has eight more to pay for... somehow. 
     The grandma who takes care of the first six kids doesn't approve of her daughter.  The daughter seems to blame her mother for the fact that she's an only child.
     Is this a revenge birthing?

It sounds like a mean thing to say, but I'm wondering if Grandma and Grandpa are wondering if they maybe made a mistake having a kid of their own at all!

 

 

When I heard about this story, my sister and I were discussing it and we both came to the same conclusions. With a certain amount of kids, she can get financial assistance from the government and she's a single parent. I purposelly think she did it on purpose and that she knew she would get the help she needs, she says she doesn't want a "father" around for the kids because she thinks "she'll be enough" what kind of people would give this woman fertility to drugs to have more fatherless children? Without more than one parent around to share the intimate time with the children, they'll get put to the side. She doesn't care about these children, just what they can do for her. She's gotten more publicity and getting the "celebrity" treatment just because of these children. This woman should be stopped.

ATTAGIRL, APRIL! 

I read that this gal spent $100,000 on the fertility treatments which was part of the $165,000 disability payments she got from poor old California.  (ATTAGIRL, TUNEFUL!)

This lady really is a player.  Get this -- she qualified for disability payments because of a legitimate injury on a job (back when she was WORKING) and then one day when she was at the doctor for treatment of this injury, she's rear-ended by somebody else out in the parking lot.  And she goes ahead and gets disability for THAT too because she said that that was also a work-related disability because if she hadn't been there getting treated for the first disability, the rear-ending wouldn't have happened!!!!!

I'm telling you, there are a lot of shrewd players scattered here and there while the rest of us are just going along doing the best we can.  I think this is why this lady's manipulating ways have struck such a nerve.

 

A nut case and a crook!

AprilTaylor89 said…
When I heard about this story, my sister and I were discussing it and we both came to the same conclusions. With a certain amount of kids, she can get financial assistance from the government and she's a single parent. I purposelly think she did it on purpose and that she knew she would get the help she needs, she says she doesn't want a "father" around for the kids because she thinks "she'll be enough" what kind of people would give this woman fertility to drugs to have more fatherless children? Without more than one parent around to share the intimate time with the children, they'll get put to the side. She doesn't care about these children, just what they can do for her. She's gotten more publicity and getting the "celebrity" treatment just because of these children. This woman should be stopped.

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I'm not sure how it is in California but I do know that most welfare systems have a cut off of 6 kids for welfare payments... i.e. they will pay a certain amount of benifit up to 6 children so she wouldn't be getting any more just because of the 8. 

I do agree she is nuts though and this is just basically a sign of the morals (or lack thereof) society seems to be teaching.

i think the docter should pay all the bills to hospial being he knew she had all those baby then planted 8 more babys he is just as responibe as her