These are the best I have found so far . Better than the more expensive Name brand .I have served them to family and friends at Parties .I got compliments . I also cook them in the oven add beef gravy and make them Salisbury steaks  . Kids Think I worked very hard .  Very Little shrinkage . They are a nice thick burger.  The price is grate also . The larger box is better priced but the rest can stay frozen.