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pbundy4807
Savannah, GA
Never Kenmore
1 star rating

Mr. Fix-it

FEB
24
2009

Kenmore Washer - 500 — 

My Kenmore 500 washer is <6 months old. It is already shot!! I bought a brand new house in August, and furnished it with all Kenmore appliances. My mistake. The dishwasher doesn't clean dishes, my refrigerator has been repaired twice, and I finally replaced it with an Amana. I know Amana is the same thing, but at least this one works. Now my Washer is crapping out. We are a family of 3, so it's not like we wash every other day. It's been used maybe 50-75 times. Ridiculous.

NEVER BUY FROM SEARS!!! I can't stress enough.



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alpinewil81 wrote on Nov 29, 2009 at 7:35PM

I gathered from your initial posting that the majority of your animosity towards the Kenmore product was based on customer service. Seems I was fairly accurate. Although it still doesn't bode well that you couldn't even get one good appliance out of Sears with a Kenmore badge on it.

I too hope for another 10 good years of service. But believe me... if not, Whirlpool will be the first I call. I have an issue dealing with local stores... especially around where I live. The stores here are all locally owned as we are a small city. Contrary to popular belief that doesn't always make things better. They often find it a hassle if there is a potential for lost funds. But in all honesty I have yet to deal with ours. It may be a good experience or it may not. I guess only time will tell.

Best of luck in your future appliance ventures!!!

pbundy4807 wrote on Nov 29, 2009 at 12:49PM

In response to alpinewil81's comment from Nov 28, 2009 at 4:49PM:

Holy Cow!! You are very passionate!! I've got to admit. I haven't read every word on every post you have made, but it really doesn't change my experiance with Kenmore. As far as the customer service aspect. My main problem was with the local store. Both frig's were bad almost immediately. One had a broken compressor bracket upon being plugged in, and the other quit cooling within a few hours of reaching operating temp. The store tried to charge me a restocking fee both times, and a lost my food that was in there. It was truly crazy. I actually purchased the washer /dryer from them as sort of a bargain to not have to pay a restocking fee of 10% or 15% (been a while, so can't say for sure how much). My wife felt they would be more willing to make it right with the additional purchase. The corporate office did try to make it right, but I was just not interested in trying to work witht them after their initial reaction. I've maid other purchases of new products that had issues, but it's not a big deal as long as the seller will stand behind them. I hope you have 10 years of excellent service from your new washer/dryer set as well. My wish is that noone has the same experince I've had, but since I've only made 2 big purchases from Sears in the last 10 years, and both were substandard products. I'm only going on my personal experience with Kenmore. Which has been VERY POOR. Sorry, but that has been my experience.

alpinewil81 wrote on Nov 28, 2009 at 4:49PM

In response to pbundy4807's comment from Nov 28, 2009 at 9:58AM:

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I apologize for being rather arrogant. I'm an Architect and I frequently see and hear about instances just like this when there are usually other underlying factors. In a situation like this, there is way to much going on behind the scenes than to simply point a finger directly at Kenmore... maybe Sears for poor customer service. But in any instance, you can easily find out what factory produced the unit and take it up to the next level to get the problem corrected. Yes, doing so is a pain but in the long run which is worse: you despising a store brand because the store didn't help resolve the matter or taking the extra time and dealing with the manufacturer to resolve the matter? Sure most manufacturers tell you to go back to the retailer first, however, they will all get involved need be to ensure the retailer provides the customer service the manufacturer feels the customer deserves. After all, the manufacturers name relies more on it than the store... they have a lot more vested in the matter with many other stores and customers. Believe me, being the little guy doesn't mean that the big guy won't help you. It's roughly 1 in 10,000 units that they don't and that 1 is usually because of the attitude of the customer.

alpinewil81 wrote on Nov 28, 2009 at 4:48PM

In response to pbundy4807's comment from Nov 28, 2009 at 9:58AM:

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Maybe you should have researched them more (it's obvious you do research as you read a consumer reports article...) so that you purchased a higher grade appliance because maybe you are harder on them than you realize? Or, maybe it has nothing to do with the appliance or you at all? Maybe your new home has "dirty power" which would often short electrical components in large appliances randomly. Maybe your new home has extremely hard water which would allow your dishwasher to not effectively work? Maybe the reason you love your Amana so much now is that it's new again and it hasn't had time to fail? I understand that you had two Kenmore fridges replaced... where they faulty upon instantly plugging them in?

alpinewil81 wrote on Nov 28, 2009 at 4:47PM

In response to pbundy4807's comment from Nov 28, 2009 at 9:58AM:

5)
In all honesty, the Kenmore products you complain about are no less than there brethren with a different badge and decal. Although, it is possible you may have received the lemons of the line... although I'd find that hard to believe considering you are complaining about all your Kenmore appliances which would include roughly 3 differing factories. I doubt all 3 had a bad day at the same time outfitting your new home with all junk appliances? Again, this sounds more like your own animosity towards Kenmore stemmed from your Sears experience perhaps when getting them fixed and/or replaced?

alpinewil81 wrote on Nov 28, 2009 at 4:47PM

In response to pbundy4807's comment from Nov 28, 2009 at 9:58AM:

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All that said, all models made identical to the Kenmore 500 for instance (my 10 year old model is identical to my new model) are built using the same methods and parts, there is no diversity other than a couple buttons, badge, and a sticker that some guy at the end of the production line slaps on the unit. Literally slapping them on, have you ever noticed how crooked and wrinkled a serial number tag can be on some appliances? Same goes for refrigerators, although I believe they all come from their Michigan plant. Anyway, that means all like models are equal as they leave the factory. They don't just throw in a few random parts here and there to lessen the quality of a Kenmore vs. a Maytag. Imagine the rebuttal that would take place if they did... there are hundreds of thousands of Sears customers who could have easily gone to Home Depot and bought the same product for the same price with a different name... but they didn't. It's like Chrysler, the 300C, 300 Touring, Magnum, and Charger all were produced in succession to the next without any change to the assembly line. Therefore, not one of them was superior to the next and when one was plagued with fault, all of them where plagued with fault. Again, off queue but it shows the point.

alpinewil81 wrote on Nov 28, 2009 at 4:46PM

In response to pbundy4807's comment from Nov 28, 2009 at 9:58AM:

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Anyway, here's where I owe an apology. Each of the brands I mentioned in my initial reply I mentioned as superior with exception of the Amana. In essence, they are truly 100% equals. Giving you the perks here as you stated their equality. For instance, you state an instance of appliance being identical to the Amana which you own. Then further claim the Amana being the better product which is nearly impossible. Take for instance all Whirlpool Top Load Washers and Dryers are produced in their Ohio factory. They are built on the same line regardless of what label they leave with. Granted, Whirlpool Corporation is like many others who outsource small parts to cheap companies, they aren't swapping parts randomly into the production line of the Kenmores instead of the Maytags. That costs more to do than they are willing to spend, guaranteed.

alpinewil81 wrote on Nov 28, 2009 at 4:46PM

In response to pbundy4807's comment from Nov 28, 2009 at 9:58AM:

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All this goes beyond the stickers a and the model numbers shown. The page you cited and its support link merely identify brand reference, I.E. a Maytag identical to a Whirlpool and so on. It also boasts about the brands they have acquired over the years. But it doesn't identify where items are made or any further variations thereof. It even goes as far as saying manufacturing arrangements are constantly changing... yeah, not so true. Does anyone know how much it costs to rearrange factory equipment? If this were the case, then GM may have changed its equipment so it could finally build a vehicle to the same quality and specifications of the foreign car market. Instead, it costs to much so they'd rather pay laborers $100k a year to sit and install a plastic door panel and still build a crappy car... I apologize, that was an off point comment.

alpinewil81 wrote on Nov 28, 2009 at 4:46PM

In response to pbundy4807's comment from Nov 28, 2009 at 9:58AM:

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Wow, I'm glad to see you are learning about "house brands" aka "brands made specifically for box store retailers". Most people don't understand this tactic. This is a much bigger game than most people are aware of. I'll apologize for not elaborating on where my comment came from. There is a lot more to it if you are going to cross reference identities of appliances and state them as equal. I'll admit, I posted incorrectly as well as it appears your grief goes beyond the unit and its manufacturer.

alpinewil81 wrote on Nov 28, 2009 at 4:46PM

In response to pbundy4807's comment from Nov 28, 2009 at 9:58AM:

I'm going to respond with a novel... sorry to take so much of your time, but you might find it worth reading. Due to limitations of this site, I have pasted paragraphs using a number showing order.

pbundy4807 wrote on Nov 28, 2009 at 9:58AM

In response to alpinewil81's comment from Nov 27, 2009 at 8:56PM:

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/appliances/news/who-actually-makes-all-those-appliances/overview/index.htm
Seems Amana, Whirlpool, Kitchen Aid (which is the upper Kenmore) are all the same product. You can love your 500 all you want. Doesn't mean that a lot of people get the same good performance from Kenmore. I love my Amana frig much more than I did my Kenmore. I had 2 Kenmore friges (all the same model) that were defective. I got the same model Amana, and have had NO trouble.
Looks like you should know more about a product before you tell someone they are passing out bad information. I'm simply posting my opinion about my purchase and the performance of my appliances.

alpinewil81 wrote on Nov 27, 2009 at 8:56PM

For starters... Amana is not a Kenmore product. It's manufactured by Whirlpool who also manufactures Maytag and Jenn-Air. All of which are superior products. Perhaps you should know more about what you claiming as equal. Besides, I love my 500 series washer and dryer. Just replaced an older set of 500's that where roughly 10 years old.