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My kid had a $9.99 charge on his cell phone for one call (and he's on 500 minutes and only used 147 minutes) for 11-11-2008. Hum. That did not make sense, so I called Sprint. They are good to work with.
Evil Cell Phone Download Scam
Turns out this call was not a call. It was a download. I know (and my son knows) that online downloads cost extra. He does not buy iTunes or anything online without letting me know. So, this is strange.
Glad for the IQ Scam Tip
I talk to the Sprint lady first trying to figure out what kind of cell phone call runs $9.99 for one call. I'm thinking, "Well, maybe there was an emergency, and 911 costs close ten bucks." She tells me that it's an online download. So. OK. The kid downloaded . . . something. It was not an emergency. What did he download?
In addition, the Sprint lady tips me off that it is not just the one call. It is a monthly charge that will be $9.99 every month if my son does not cancel. She tells me that she got hit with the same thing, and she works at Sprint. She said it took her 2 months before she caught this online trick. Good grief. She's in the industry. My kid is just a kid - a teen kid - but still . . .
OK Kid - What's Up with the $10 Call?
I ask my kid about this call when he gets home for the holidays.
The way the online scam or online phish works is that you go online (no charge on his Sprint phone), but you see that you can take and IQ Test or IQ Quiz. When you click on that, you get charged a download of $9.99. And, it's not just that one day that you decide to have some fun online on the cell phone. It's every month forever I suppose.
The scary thing about this online scam is that you have a lot of people (like my kid) who would never put in the credit card infomation and agree to pay $9.99 to find out that he's smarter than a 5th grader. Who the heck would be stupid enough to buy that? No one. So, they slide it in as an online download which then routes through the cell phone company where your credit card is good and where you do pay and pay and pay.
Who Messed with My Computer? - No. I'm Not the Paranoid Type
To top things off, I tried to look up this scam online. I used Google to check IQ quiz and IQ test and scams. This crashed my computer. I thought, for sure, that I was toast on my HP. There were notes about trojan horses and other scary things that popped up. I needed (according to the notes) to download software to fix these problems (and pay more money). I had to click that button that said I did trust the site to do so. I did not. I manually shut down my computer. It was wonky for a couple of hours as I kept running set up and trying to get it to work again. So, be very careful if you get burned by the IQ scam. When you try to check on that, you get burned again. You won't here at Viewpoints. This is a review site. I do not sell anyone stuff online. This is a safe space to read about such problems.
It All Seemed to Innocent - That's How They Get You
There are fun and games online. Most kids know that. My kid said his roommate told him about the fun IQ test. He pulled up the web site and took the test on his cell phone. He found out he was smart. I told him that you do not have to pay to find that out. Duh. He's smart enough to know that too.
But, this really is a rip off and one that I'm sure has caught many other kids and adults. You just press a simple IQ test or IQ quiz button while on the cell phone. You're having fun finding out how smart you are while some smartie is getting your information and charging you direct from your cell phone company to the tune of close $10 per month an ongoing. This skips over your charge card, because you trust your cell phone company.
To top it off, you try to search or check this IQ game problem at your desktop computer, and you get bad juju on your home computer. It overrides the safety settings. You are pushed to pay for software from goodness knows where - and probably from the same outfit that is gaming you on IQ stuff. I'm glad I did not press the "pay and fix it" button although it took a long time to get my computer back today.
Is My Kid the Only One to Fall for the IQ Scam? I Doubt it.
I don't know how new internet cheat thing this is. I suspect that it's not been around long. But, I'm sure my kid and his roommate and the Sprint lady (who was nice enough to share) are not the only victims. I would like to check that out more, but the computer crash this morning scared heck outa me. I don't want to put my data and photos on the line. I want my kid off the $9.99 a month train, and I want my computer to work right. I do not want others to have to deal with this problem, so I am posting. I would like to follow up and sock it to the IQ creeps, but I don't know how to find them and report them.
Stop Online Scams - And Let Me Know If I Can Help
Be careful! And, if you can get around this online scam and shut them down, good for you. If you need back up, let me know. I will go on the record with how the IQ test or IQ quiz game is being played on innocent onliners. I just don't know how to find them and how to follow up - yet.
Update
As you can see in my comment section, I did get back online (after backing up all my files on an external drive). You will find loads of information and can copy and paste the links for more information on the cell phone scams.
Please note that the cell phone companies are VERY aware of this problem. In fact, they get a cut of the scammed money.
Who Did This Cell Phone Scam?
PredictoMobile or Predicto Mobile PR was kind enough to respond to this post. I had not been able to trace it back that far. Google PredictoMobile, and you will find loads of posts about the scam. That's easier than trying to track it down using the IQ test, because it's way more than just the IQ thing that you get you on.
Not PredictoMobile
I called PredictoMobile. They did not bill my son. I guess someone there just had a guilty conscience as indicated in the customer care note below.
When I tried to explain why I called PredictoMobile to the service rep (and that the contact is posted here at Viewpoints), she was VERY rude. She said I didn't have an account and that I needed one to talk to her manager.
EXCUSE ME . . .
Trust me. I did get to talk to a manager. I explained the situation again. I think perhaps the manager "got it." In any case, she was not rude.
If I had a company and if I did not play this scam, I would not want it posted that my company is the contact. I was trying to do them a favor in telling them where/how I got the phone number and why I called PredictoMobile.
Next time, I'll let them figure it out on their own. They can just field the calls and scratch their heads I guess.
Here's the message board post listed by member CustomerCare:
"We are sorry to hear about your experience. Please note that we at PredictoMobile take customer satisfaction very seriously and would like to address any concerns. You can call us 24 hours a day, 7 days a week at 800-360-0518 so that we can resolve your inquiry. Keep in mind, our toll-free customer service number is also posted on our website as well as included in SMS messages sent to your phone.
Please note that a customer enrolls in our service by submitting their cell phone number on the PredictoMobile sign-up page which clearly explains the terms and conditions including price of service and billing to the cell phone. We then send the user a text message to their personal cell phone which again details this information. In order to activate the account, the user must then enter the PIN on our website or reply with a confirmation from their cell phone. The clear disclosures and double opt-in process ensures high levels of consumer protection and satisfaction. In the event that someone wants to cancel the service one can simply text "stop" to 654654 or call Customer Service and they will assist you. Again, we look forward to speaking with you and resolving any concerns which you may have."
"Sincerely,
Customer Service
PredictoMobile"
Now, doesn't that beat all? I was nice enough to try to tip them off, and they catch an attitude. OK. If they want credit for cheating my son on his cell phone bill, then I'll let them do that. They ought to read reviews more closely before posting apologies, and they ought to listen when someone tries to give them a helping hand (even when they don't deserve it either).
Found the Scam Company
I found the company that ripped off my son on the IQ test. It is Mobile Messenger as listed on the phone bill. The number that shows up when you get ripped is 44999.
We had an interesting conversation. The customer rep assured me that my son went through a three step process and got a PIN number to confirm he wanted the service.
When I said I did not think that was true (about the PIN) and also that my son cancelled, the guy looked up his account. My son said he pressed Stop as soon as he saw the $9.99 which popped AFTER he put in his phone number (not a PIN - and confirm paid service). Mobile Messenger records showed that he hit Stop one minute after activation, the next day and then a third time. In addition, I emailed to cancel. His account was still active - even with these stops on THEIR records.
I asked the customer rep if that three step sign up process and PIN thing work as well as the stop service which did not stop the service with 4 times cancelling. He still swore that the sign up was on the level, but he could not explain the problems with STOP.
I had a BLOCK put on Mobile Messenger (and I sure better not get charged for that or I'm really gonna get mad). The customer service guy said that they could not refund again and that they were doing me a favor this one time. I asked how I would get charged again with a block. He could not explain that either. I asked him if he was sure that the service was blocked. He said it was. So, I still wonder how they are going to rip me off again. If Mobile Messenger is blocked, then that does not make any sense at all.
Follow Up if You Get Ripped Off by Mobile Messenger
If you get scammed by Mobile Messenger, here is the contact information. Don't bother with the text stop. It does not work. The email is worthless too. I suggest calling, and I also recommend writing down the case number. Keep watching your bill too. I would not trust this company one little bit.
USA:
Email: escalationsus@sms-helpdesk.com
Phone: 1 800 416 6129
Last edited on Jan 03, 2009
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